this is where the tension comes from, ralph reed talking about evangelicals will sit out. if they "embrace" gay marriage and the republican party and things like that. >> stephanie: same with immigration reform, right? they're basically saying we lost on that issue. >> sean hannity 24 hours after the election, he was like oh, forget it. ignore everything i've said for the last seven years. on the one hand, folks on the left can appreciate that they see it is a loser issue and if fox news throws in the towel on immigration hate, if they do, you know, it would make it easier for change to happen. just like oh, forget it. >> stephanie: didn't even bother to -- you're not supposed to say it out loud. you're supposed to say i've had an evolution in my thinking. put a little effort into it. >> there was no court case. no new legislation. we lost. forget it. >> stephanie: yeah. how did enjoy the republican autopsy, by the way? >> that was fascinating. as i wrote on friday, you know, i said by the way roger -- roger ailes isn't buying it. the report was about reaching out to women